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« on: August 15, 2017, 07:46:48 AM »

NOTE – please read the thread ‘Physical – Water part 1’ before reading this thread.

Some useful ways to remove toxins from your drinking water -

1. Boiling your water for around twenty minutes then cooling and drinking dissipates much of the chlorine, but little if anything else. This method is inconvenient and not very efficacious, but it’s cheap and it’s better than doing nothing.

2. Adding a pinch of vitamin C to a glass of water will neutralise much of the chlorine whilst providing a useful antioxidant dose to your diet – cheap ascorbic acid is fine if acid doesn’t upset your stomach. If it does, use sodium ascorbate.

3. Jug filters – these do pretty much and perhaps a little more than boiling does and are much more convenient. The jugs are quite cheap to buy, but on going, filter replacement is a cost that doesn’t apply to boiling, though the filters aren’t overly expensive. So, a slightly better option than boiling but a bit more expensive.

4. Whole house filters like reverse osmosis systems for example - these will get your water pretty much as clean as it can be, and your bath/shower water will also be clean, but they’re very expensive to buy and install. Also, regular filter changes are required because there have been many reports of bacteria infestation in them, and like the system itself, they’re expensive. So, okay but with serious long term cost reservations.

5. Water distillers – I had one of these before I bought what I have now. There are plenty of cheap, nasty ones about, but a good quality one will cost close to £200. They do need a regular carbon filter change, but these are very cheap. They produce totally pure water. So why did I get rid of mine – a) the process is very slow   b) cleaning is a faff   c) the water is pure but it’s also dead - I added salts and minerals to mine, but getting the quantities right is a pain. Many people highly recommend these but I don’t.

6. There are numerous pretty good standalone systems available from around £200 upwards, but after a great deal of research, I settled on The Berkey Filter System, and two years on, I’m delighted that I did. This system removes the vast majority of everything you don’t want whilst leaving what you do want in place. Once set up, which takes about fifteen minutes, the only chores are to wash the bottom section out once a month, which takes about ten minutes, and to clean the filters about twice a year. The two main filters that come with the unit last about ten years assuming average usage. My water authority adds Fluoride (Grrrr) and if yours does, you need the extra fluoride filters – one attached to each of the two main filters, and these cost £60 for the pair and last for around eighteen months. There are several sizes of the main unit available and I chose the Big Berkey, which is suitable for two to three people and costs about £250. That sounds a lot, but if you need the fluoride filters, and assuming an 18 month life, which I’ve found to be about right, the total running cost is around 77p a week, and I rate that as being a bargain. If you don’t need the fluoride filters, the annual running cost is nil for around ten years, at which point replacement main filters will cost £90 at current prices, and these will cover you for the next ten years

Since buying the Big Berkey, I’ve been delighted to see that three people who I have great respect for  – scientist and researcher Chris Masterjohn, scientist and researcher Mike Adams and cancer survivor, researcher and lecturer on natural cancer treatments, Chris Wark – have all recommend Berkey as a first choice. You can see Chris Wark doing a quick demo here

So that’s my choice. Your choice is for you to decide, but I would urge you to do something to get the best benefit that you can afford from the one thing that you can’t live without for more than a few days – doing ‘something’, even the smallest ‘something’ has to be better than doing nothing!

One final point – unless you have guts of steel, drinking iced water is a bad idea because it ‘shocks’ your digestive system and disrupts the digestive process. Water is best drunk at room temperature.

Please feel free to respond to this post for discussion and argument or with any questions.


Footnote

It strikes me that I’ve just done some serious Berkey virtue extolling and that might raise perfectly reasonable suspicions regarding possible commercial interests. So I’d like to make it clear that other than as a customer, I have no relationship with either the manufacturer or the supplier and that, therefore, neither I nor the forum will gain any benefit, financial or otherwise, if any member of, or visitor to, this forum makes a purchase via the above link.







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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2017, 01:00:22 PM »

I've just come across this - http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/why-there-no-such-thing-safe-tap-water - It's about tap water in the USA, but we have the same issues here in the uk.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 01:37:05 PM »

Intresting article, I never drink our tap water, it tastes really odd and has a chlorine smell to it, I use a water filter for the kettle and only drink bottled water.
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2017, 02:25:18 PM »

Hi TP,

As mentioned in the TWO waster threads, bottled water is probably better than tap, but based on the research I've done, probably not by much. Over time, a really good water filter will work out cheaper than bottled water and is a much better option.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2017, 12:08:48 PM »

Hi

Are jug filters those things that you just pour your tap water into the top and it filters on its way into the main jug?
I live in a rented accomm on only my husbands income. I am guessing this is my main/most likely solution.

Lots of people in the dreaded FB groups tell each other to drink those drinks with electrolytes etc in them. Thoughts?

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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2017, 01:28:25 PM »

Yes, they're the ones. Not brilliant, but much better than nothing.

My thoughts - just put a pinch of fine Himalayan salt or Celtic salt (gray, not white) in your drinking water - just enough to not taste salty.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2017, 06:09:21 PM »

I got my water filter from Argos, cheapest I could find as it comes with 3 filters, and the replacement filters were £10 for 3

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/6128003
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2017, 10:30:28 AM »

I got these http://amzn.eu/9Y8MQWa Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2018, 06:34:37 AM »

There's nothing more refreshing than a nice cool glass of... little plastic
particles?!?!?

I know that's not something you'd drink on purpose.

But if you drink bottled water, that's EXACTLY what you could be swallowing!

A throat-clogging new report from researchers in New York finds that bottled water is routinely contaminated with globs of plastic so tiny that they're practically invisible to the naked eye.

And every time you glug, you get a bellyful of these chemical orbs!

Researchers tested more than 250 bottles of water from 11 popular brands... and found plastic bits and pieces in nearly all of them.

Just 7 percent of them had no itty bits.

The part of the study that's making news finds more than 10 particles per liter, which is bad enough.

But the TRUE number is much worse -- because that first figure only includes the biggest of the tiny particles.

Once you add up ALL of the plastic bits, there's an average of 325 particles per litre of water.

And some of the bottles tested had around 10,000 pieces or more!

Slightly more than half of the plastic pieces were made of polypropylene, the same stuff that makes up the bottle lids.

Clearly, the manufacturing process is screwier than the treads on those caps.

Another 4 percent weren't just plastic pieces. They were plastic pieces with traces of industrial lubricants on them.

That means that you're not just glugging water.

You're knocking back water... plastic... and some kind of oily goo.

But that somehow doesn't explain ALL of what researchers found.

Here's an alarming line from the report for you: "Data suggests contamination is at least partially coming from the packaging and/or the bottling process itself."

Partially??? Where the heck is the rest coming from?!?! Do we even want to know?

But on the flip side, tap water isn't exactly better. It's loaded with other junk, including trace levels of hormone drugs, rocket fuel, heavy metals, and cocaine. And let's not forget about the stuff dumped in on purpose -- like fluoride and chlorine.

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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2018, 08:09:26 AM »

Well I did wonder why the article had singled out bottled water for plastic contamination and it still doesn't mention it in the final paragraph. This article suggests that it's in our tap water also
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/06/plastic-fibres-found-tap-water-around-world-study-reveals
Very scary. Nowhere to hide from it - or do the jug filters remove it?
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2018, 08:43:49 AM »

Yes it is scary and I wouldn't trust a jug filter to clean tap water properly, though they do clear most of the chlorine so they're better than nothing.
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2018, 07:06:18 PM »

It hard to decide which is worse tap or bottled, as plastic seems to be in most things these days, which is why I don't eat fish anymore.
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2018, 05:25:07 AM »

You can get bottled water in glass bottles but, say over a year, that works out more expensive than a Berkey if you're drinking as much as you should.
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2018, 02:25:21 PM »

When I wrote this thread last year, one of my main concerns was fluoridated tap water and I suggested the Berkey water filter to get rid of this. However, whilst the Berkey remains my favoured option, I’m very aware that it is unaffordable for many. At that time, I was aware of research saying that boron neutralisers fluoride but I wasn’t convinced that the research was conclusive enough. Now I am, and I believe that 3mg a day of boron is enough to neutralise the amount of fluoride you’re likely to get in your drinking water, and you can get a 250 day supply for about £10 - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Now-Foods-Boron-3mg-Capsules/dp/B0095D30HI/ref=sr_1_6_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1533477807&sr=8-6&keywords=boron+3mg

Also, boron is good for your bones, your muscles, your skin, your digestion and for if you’re fighting candida – not a cure for this, but helpful.

Sounds like a no-brainer to me.
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